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Ponicalica

DO YOU NOT SEE WHY I USE GUILLEMETS NOW

THEY NEST

ClockworkUniverse

Is that what those marks are called?

Ponicalica

Yes

Central Avenue

I like guillemets, because they have different opening and closing ones, unlike the so-called 'dumb quotes' most computers still use.

I won't use them, though, because I don't want to change my keyboard to a French layout or whatever.

That, and I can't stand typing quirks, so having one of my own would be immensely hypocritical.

Ponicalica

You only need to get US-International in order to use guillemets; US-International is probably already installed on your computer.

Central Avenue

There's also the fact that I can't be arsed to learn a new layout.

Seriously, is it too much to ask that Microsoft include a thing where I can see, like, a map of the new layout? (They sorta have one, but it only shows the letters/numbers/shift keys)

DYRE

The reason I don't use those things is because they look stupid.  And besides, regular quotation marks nest too, it's just that I'm too lazy to use them because I don't think there's any easy way of typing them on any keyboard layout I'm familiar with, and so I have to use dumb quotes.

Regardless, I think `` should be converted by the forum software into a left quotation mark, and '' into a right quotation mark.  That's how LaTeX does it, and it seems like it'd be nice if other software did that too.  Of course, LaTeX isn't a forum software... but that's beside the point.

Saigyouji

I always end up reading guillemets as guillemots...

Ponicalica

Saigyouji: So did Adobe and the developers for X11.

Komodin

I hate guillemets...

Central Avenue

^ Why?

Komodin

I just don't like how it looks...

Anonus

I admit I have trouble reading them as quotation marks.

Central Avenue

I had trouble reading them as quotation marks for a long time, but I got used to them thanks to Tzetze.

DYRE

The more people use them, the more these irritate me.  I wouldn't mind it so much if it was just like a < or something, but I don't like the fact that it's two pointy things...

「These things」 are better anyway.

Nyktos

@CentralAvenue: US International is almost the same as US Standard anyway. It has dead keys and turns your right Alt into an AltGr; otherwise it's the same. So really, you don't need to learn a new layout, just how to type the characters you actually want. I don't remember how to type guillemets, for example.

Although, I did just discover how to type a degree symbol in randomly trying to guess how to do guillemets. Awesome! (AltGr + Shift +

inkblot

You should have posted this in the other IJBM, so you can say'"Kagami Hiiragi snuggling after sex" (the IJBM thread) (the IJAM thread) (the other IJBM thread) got deleted'.

Ponicalica

Guillemets in US-International are AltGr+[ and AltGr+].

Central Avenue

What's an AltGr?

*runs off crying*

DYRE

The right Alt key while you're in US-International mode.

Saigyouji

You also get AltGr by default on a lot of keyboards.

glennmagusharvey

Not on the "United States" keyboard.  You have to at least get "US International".