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People who justify sick shit as art
This just happened a bit ago
A student apparently got professor approval to SACRIFICE A LIVE FUCKING CHICKEN AS ART THEN SKIN IT ON THE SPOT!
I saw the skinned bird carried away. It was so surreal I thought it was a performance piece with symbolism (I missed the sacrifice so I assumed store bought dead bird)
I left due to this, missing the brawl
Police are currently up there, hopefully arresting the fucker
Some fellow students are saying it's no big deal and that it's art
IT'S NOT FUCKING ART ITS FUCKING SICK!
Comments
I don't think that something is not art just because it's unethical. Though certainly it does mean he shouldn't have been allowed to do it, art or not. Art isn't really a justification for doing bad things.
Did the chicken suffer more than if it would be slaughtered for food(as in, was it a clean kill)?
Was there a fair warning given so that people could vacate the premises if it wasn't their cup of tea?
(Also, this shit happens daily in the bio-industry with only a small segment of society batting an eyelash at it. When a single chicken is taken out of said context and has the same thing happen to it as it would suffer in a meat mill, there's a riot. That provocation alone would make it art, imho, as it goes beyond edgy for edginess' sake).
Which one of us was the artist, 'cause I forgot? I'm curious what the artistic community thinks of that kind of show.
^^ I understand, but he did it without a choppibg block, slashing the throat of the chicken, with barely any warning
Makes me think of that story about a woman who got pregnant multiple times and painted a picture with abortion by-products, I'm told this one actually didn't happen. And there was a story about a guy who instead of paint used his own shit (he ate spinach, beet, and so on to get the right colour).
And just for the record, it's not that he killed a chicken, it's that he killed a chicken and claimed it's art.
I'm confused. How is this any different than chickens getting killed normally, besides somebody claiming it as art?
Welp, then he can't complain about any of the volatile reactions he provoked, seeing as he obviously wanted as big a stir as possible.
^^ I remember something about throat-slicing being a faster and more efficient (thus, less painful...?) method than bolt guns, but I heard that on the TV Tropes forums, and Google mostly gives me results that are "animals feel less pain if they're already unconscious before being killed". Is that the comparison here?
^^ Does this mean successful troll was successful?
By the way, did they arrest him?
Well then, anybody know any chapters of anonymous who like chickens?
"not even modern art justifies 5'ing slitting chickens"?
How about informing some crazy bunch like the radical environmentalists?
^^^ "5'ing"?
^^ What about groups like ALF or PETA?
^ninja
^^^ That would just be trying to trollprofit off of another trolling, basically. Kinda like this.
^ Have you heard of NEDM? also known as "not even DOOM music justifies 5'ing burning kittens"?
Generally, in a non factory environment, chickens are killed by decapitation, either by hand or blade. Their necks are very fragile.
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I dunno, after seeing what McDonald's does to chickens, and having to break a few chicken necks while living abroad, a guy slitting a chicken's throat seems way more tame by comparison.
And yeah, I'm guessing he's gonna go for the "your reaction is part of the art" angle. Or maybe he's trying to highlight how something that's an everyday occurance for farmers and hunters can ellicit such a strong emotional response in other people? Oh, or maybe he's a psycho that wanted to kill something in front of all his peers? Or make a statement about how context can radically change a person's reaction to something?
I dunno, I kinda wish I were there.
I don't think I have. Is "5'ing" just some bizarre way to write "fucking"?
Hmm, that's an interesting context to bring up. So, this isn't really all that "brutal" compared to how livestock is normally killed, then?
@Saigyouji oh, ok.
Well, not really. But how they're killed tends to vary wildly depending on who's handling the slaughtering. For instance, fur companies have been known to execute rabbits by stunning them with electricity, slitting their throats very superficially, and leaving them to bleed to death impaled on a meat hook as they twich.
And McDonald's has got this kind of thing going on all day, every day. (Oh, I should warn you guys that that link brings you to a video with graphic depiction of chickens being mutilated and tortured by McDonald's egg suplier)
But on the other hand, you'll often find some slaughterhouses are insistent on humane deaths, and won't torture an animal in the slightest, unlike the other examples mentioned above.
Anyway, yeah, I'd argue that might not have been so bad, but I wasn't there to see.
The bolt gun thing is mainly larger livestock. The problem with it isn't the bolt gun itself, so much as the obscene meteoric factory pace the workers go at, which often results in ill-placed shots. The last source I read on it (yay agriculture college) was that something like 1/3 of pigs are not only alive, but still conscious when the hooks are stuck in.
Which makes people bitching about halal preparation profoundly hypocritical, since an animal with a slit throat will typically lose consciousness in a few heartbeats due to sudden drop of blood pressure.
As for "art", the kid who cut open a chicken probably isn't doing anything any more inhumane than a normal slaughter, by sheer virtue of the standards being that damned low. It is, however, dangerously unsanitary to do it in a cafeteria and he should probably be fined for it.
@Naas_H_Sapiens:
There's a site called YTMND.com that was a pretty big source of memes some years ago. It's still around; all it does is let people put zooming text (optionally), a background image (which may be animated), and some music, together on one webpage; such a page is called a "ytmnd". This led to various memes such as "Epic Maneuver", "lol, internet", and others, and also helped to popularize the "Picard Song".
Unrelated to this site, there was once this one guy who doused kittens with gasoline and lit them on fire. He videotaped the incident and posted it on the web (on Fark or SomethingAwful, I think). Not surprisingly, he faced a massive backlash, and the users on the site soon figured out who he was in real life and reported him to his local authorities.
That would have been the end of it, except someone took the footage and uploaded it (as an animated image) to YTMND, setting it to music from the game Doom. Not surprisingly, that ytmnd also got a ton of pushback, and was soon taken down, not to mention getting a ton of one-star ratings (out of five).
However, there were some YTMND users who, when the video was still up, had rated the video five stars, sometimes commenting that the presence of Doom music made it worth it, or something. (Your record of rating others' ytmnds is public within the YTMND community.)
One YTMND user, TitaniumGecko, decided to go on a crusade against these users as well. He went and 1-star'd all of their ytmnds.
Finally, one of these users asked TitaniumGecko why TG 1-star'd their vid. TG responded:
Other users noticed this in the midst of the site drama, found it epic (or amusing), and a new meme was born: "NEDM". This meme usually features a picture of a firefighter holding a cat he has saved, and is set to the music track "We Interrupt This Programme". (Later, a running gag about chapstick would be added to this meme, for reasons I haven't yet discovered.)