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The idea that you're never supposed to criticize someone's parenting

edited 2013-02-27 01:59:59 in General

"Don't ever tell me how to raise my kid."


I dunno, this always bothered me because how you raise your children will directly effect how they turn out later in life and if you do something wrong then they're the ones who are going to have to live on as products of any mistakes you might have made. Their parenting even impacts the people who come into contact with them later in life because it shapes how they view and interact with others. How come we all seem to see upbringing as a purely personal thing that is solely the parents' business and anyone else who tries to enable a child to look at things from a perspective contrary to what their parents might have taught them is seen as a negative influence?

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  • BeeBee
    edited 2013-02-27 02:15:29

    For some reason I thought this was going to be about telling someone they're the illegitimate spawn of a rather exotic pairing, but that's criticizing their parentage.

  • No rainbow star
    As the old saying goes, it takes a village to raise a kid
  • Because a parent's role is to control their child, and outside influences are the very definition of a lack of control.


    I'm not saying that having a different perspective is wrong, I'm just explaining the frame of mind. 

  • yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    I criticize my mom's parenting all the time! [laugh track]

  • Sheldon plz

  • No rainbow star
    Insanity: No, if it was Sheldon, then it would go like this:



    I criticize my mom's parenting all the time [few laughs] In fact, I did it just last night [more laughs] She KNOWS I only eat dinner between 8:00 and 9:00 on dates divisible by 3! [uproarous laughter with the huehuehue guy]



    Or something else about how anal he is
  • yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    who is Sheldon.

  • Has friends besides tanks now

    Character from The Big Bang Theory/huge nerdy asshole.

  • yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    oh isn't that that show that makes fun of autistic people or whatever

  • edited 2013-02-27 16:18:29
    Has friends besides tanks now

    So I've heard (or, so Malk and them will tell you, at least). I've never seen an episode and thought to read heavily into it, but it doesn't exactly make its characters sympathetic.

  • You can change. You can.

    yup

  • I don't even call it violence when it's in self defence; I call it intelligence.

    Because a parent's role is to control their child, and outside influences are the very definition of a lack of control.


    That's... a rather scary definition of parenting. No, it's a definition of parenting I'm actively against: It basically says "Parents have to keep their children away from outside influences". To hell with that, that's just brainwashing then. That's why I am against homeschooling etc - to give children an outside perspective, so they can eventually choose between perspectives. To prevent parental brainwashing.

  • No? Then what was everything that your parents taught you? It is not merely for them to control you, but for you to learn how to control them, the world, and your existence itself. You even learned to control yourself. The whole thing is (ideally) not one-sided control.

  • I don't even call it violence when it's in self defence; I call it intelligence.

    But outside influences are part of this. The problem is that you just defined parental control as "keeping children away from outside influences". Whether you meant to do so or not, but that is what your post amounted to.

  • You can change. You can.

    His point was that some people would see the lack of control as a hugely bad thing, not necessarily that they go against the definition of parenting itself. 

  • edited 2013-03-13 04:19:44

    I don't like when parents heavily spoil their children. This often results in the child growing up to become a self-centred twat who must get their way. Or when parents don't discipline the offspring. I REALLY hate that. I was sat on the tram and some little shit was so close to kicking my shins when he was swinging his legs and his mother did fuck all.


    /hatesyoungchildrenundersevenwithapassion

  • yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    That's... a rather scary definition of parenting. No, it's a definition of parenting I'm actively against: It basically says "Parents have to keep their children away from outside influences". To hell with that, that's just brainwashing then. That's why I am against homeschooling etc - to give children an outside perspective, so they can eventually choose between perspectives. To prevent parental brainwashing.



    That is not the purpose of homeschooling.

  • edited 2013-02-28 07:42:53
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    But what about the fundie parents who refuse to send their children to schools because of the "godlessness of the education system", the fact that they teach evolution etc, and end up feeding them ultrareligious bullshit through homeschooling?

  • A Mind You Do NOT Want To Read

    Exactly. That may not be the only reason for parents to resort to homeschooling, but it definitely seems to be one of the most common (at least in the United States).

  • a little muffled
    72% of interviewed homeschooling parents in the US said a desire to provide "religious or moral education" was part of the reason.
  • yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    That's unfortunate but also not representative of homeschooling on the whole.

  • a little muffled
    I agree that there are uses for homeschooling, especially for children with special needs that the school system fails to provide, but I would say it's quite representative of much of it.
  • I'm a damn twisted person

    If nearly 3 out of every 4 people cites a particular reason for doing something, that's generally a good indicator of the whole.

  • You can change. You can.

    I would like to point out that using a country who's population is known for its use of religion to justify everything as an example of why homeschooling is inherently religiously-based or otherwise flawed is pretty much as close as it gets to confirmation bias.

  • I don't even call it violence when it's in self defence; I call it intelligence.

    72% of interviewed homeschooling parents in the US said a desire to provide "religious or moral education" was part of the reason.


    That's unfortunate but also not representative of homeschooling on the whole.


    Uh...


    72%


    Face it, brainwashing is the primary reason for homeschooling.


    I would like to point out that using a country who's population is known for its use of religion to justify everything as an example of why homeschooling is inherently religiously-based or otherwise flawed is pretty much as close as it gets to confirmation bias.


    Why not use the USA for that? Among developed nations that seems to be where homeschooling is most often chosen by far.

  • But you never had any to begin with.
    Because the US still totals less than the entire rest of the world?
  • I was homeschooled...

  • I don't even call it violence when it's in self defence; I call it intelligence.

    ^^Well, I couldn't present you numbers for here, but I'd assume the rate to be even higher here. Simply because homeschooling is so uncommon here, and hence not so much in the public mind... which means the more or less only reasons any parents would think about that are of ideological nature.

  • a little muffled

    @MillerCross: I couldn't find similar studies from other countries quickly. (Note that I made that post on a phone while eating breakfast.) Homeschooling is more common in the US than most places, and Lazuli is American anyway.


    Since I'm at school now, I abused my university's library database to look for studies about homeschooling, and I found none outside of the US.

  • But you never had any to begin with.
    ^^ My cousin homeschooled his son for a few years, and his reasons were of a distinctly non-ideological nature.
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