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Another School Shooting?

GAPGAP
edited 2013-01-10 15:45:30 in General

I just learned about another school shooting in California, it kind of bothers me as we had somewhat recovered fro the last and this one pops up out of nowhere. What in the world is going on here? IS everyone going insane?


 

Comments

  • Super LazuliSuper Lazuli
    yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    When did this happen?

  • SchitzoSchitzo
    They're somethin' else.

    Man, I don't get it. At all.

    How exactly do school shootings become a fad? Is this their idea of a blaze of glory? How pathetic. Shoot a few guys and that's it. That's your claim to fame.

    Morons.

  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    These things tend to happen in clusters when a bunch of disturbed people see the media making antiheroes out of shooting perpetrators.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!

    Also, economic downturn causing people to snap etc etc.

  • lrdgcklrdgck
    "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    Copycat effect, I'd say, don't know if that's the "official" name. There's also been the Werther effect, when kids off themselves after hearing about some other kid's suicide.

  • Super LazuliSuper Lazuli
    yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    Ugh.


    I don't even have anything to say.


    This is fucking stupid.

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2013-01-10 16:22:28
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    What other people said: a backdrop of financial pressures and instability, coupled with copycatness.


    That said...source please? here we go: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/10/us/california-school-shooting/


    (complete with inane internet comments)

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    FYI, one interesting comment from that comments section:


    1 wounded. 0 dead. If there was an armed guard, it would likely be 1 wounded. 1 dead.  No one had to die, in other words.


    Now, I don't know whether that place had a security guard, and one could argue that shots don't necessarily kill, but this is a point to ponder.

  • Super LazuliSuper Lazuli
    yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    ....does that person know how numbers work?

  • All NinesAll Nines
    Has friends besides tanks now

    . . . Well, at least no one died this time.

  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Also, economic downturn causing people to snap etc etc.



    I don't necessarily buy that in this case. The guy from the last one lived with his parents and as far as I can tell had no financial responsibilities, and this one is a copycat of that one.

  • IronweaverIronweaver
    if u do convins fashist akwaint hiz faec w pavment neway jus 2 b sur

    Yeah, I don't see why so many people are opposed to having security guards in schools.


    In Serbia, we have had one police officer and several private security guards per school for already ten years or so. They're quite useful, for lots of reasons - there have been no cases of school shootings, luckily, but they at least have a duty to stop any cases of school violence and bullying.

  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    What I don't get about the whole "just put security guards in schools" debate is that you've got the pro-gun people going "guns solve everything" and the anti-gun people going "guns are too dangerous and wouldn't solve anything," but no mention of tasers.

  • CrimsonCrimson
    edited 2013-01-10 17:43:55
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!

    In Serbia, we have had one police officer and several private security guards per school for already ten years or so. They're quite useful, for lots of reasons - there have been no cases of school shootings, luckily, but they at least have a duty to stop any cases of school violence and bullying.


    That's pretty wide spread over here too, but in my experience it does jack shit.


    ^Tasers can be just as lethal as firearms and just as easily abused.

  • lrdgcklrdgck
    "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    Still, I'm pretty sure "can be" isn't exactly the same as "are".

  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Tasers can be just as lethal as firearms



    I know they can kill, but I wouldn't phrase it that way. A gun is designed to kill. It has no other purpose. Tasers are designed to incapacitate, but under unfortunate circumstances they can also kill.

  • WhaleWhale
    Champion of the Whales


    Still, I'm pretty sure "can be" isn't exactly the same as "are".



    I know someone who was tasered to death by a plastic bobby.


  • KrakenKraken
    edited 2013-01-10 18:35:51
    Finally, a GAP topic that isn't a repeat.



    In which case, no. The world's not going insane; it's always been mad.



    Never forget that the thing that holds us back from vicious, all-out violence is only there if we believe in it.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    On the topic of non-lethal weaponry, what about rubber bullets?

  • KrakenKraken
    Rubber bullets have been all but phased out; they tend to bounce around uncontrollably.



    But there are other kinds of riot rounds, all of them not so much "non-lethal" as they are "less lethal."
  • BeeBee
    edited 2013-01-10 21:50:59

    I don't necessarily buy that in this case. The guy from the last one lived with his parents and as far as I can tell had no financial responsibilities, and this one is a copycat of that one.



    Not directly, but it messes up kids' parents, and by result the kids' home lives and development.  Mind, we've been in this downturn for long enough to screw with families in the long term, distancing them, straining marriages, etc.


    I mean, I had a pretty messed up enough childhood while my parents were relatively well off and around enough to be wonderfully supportive -- I don't really want to think about how things would've turned out if they had to work the continual long hours they do anymore that keeps me from seeing them hardly at all and makes one an irascible powderkeg who's forgotten how to relax and the other constantly ill and depressed when they do get home late at night.


    Hell, they've both got relatively well-paying jobs.  I would've been fucked up to all hell if we were deep-city poor on minimum wage.

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