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Could the Buster Sword be used in combat?

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  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    Why is it not called a broadrapier then. :|



    'Cause it's not focused on thrusting. 



    What kind of sword is Chrono Trigger's Masamune?



    A longsword. Any sword that is designed primarily for two hands (and despite one-handed use, that Masamune obviously has a two-handed hilt) is a kind of longsword. You might consider a greatsword, for instance, to be a longsword that cannot be used in a single hand, whereas the standard longsword is designed for two hands but can accommodate one-handed use. A katana could be considered a "longsabre", if you like, from a Western perspective. 


    In medieval weapons terminology, "long" usually means "two-handed" rather than "lengthy". It referred to the length of the hilt rather than the length of the blade, so all two-handed swords fall into the longsword family, which itself is a derivation of the standard, single-handed, straight-bladed high medieval sword.

  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    What is a saber?


    (Other than someone that vaguely looks like Fate Testarossa)

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    Fundamentally, any curved sword. The term "sabre" is associated with the Renaissance period and eras after it, but it's an appropriate term for any curved sword, really. 

  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Oh, that IS what it is.  I thought that and was wondering if I was wrong about that and there were straight sabers.

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    Some sabres are only very, very slightly curved, mind. 

  • edited 2012-11-19 06:16:12
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    I see.


    ...and what's the name of that FSN character in Australia and the U.K.?  Saber or Sabre?

  • edited 2012-11-19 06:44:58

    Saber.

  • Proper nouns don't get altered spelling, methinks.

  • You'd think you guys would know all this already, what with Alex being a regular here.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Who's to say we don't, and we don't just want to force him to type up paragraph after paragraph for our amusement?

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    Amusement? Hah.

  • Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!

    Early New Year's Resolution: We will make Alex type stuff until his keyboard breaks. (Y/Y)?

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Y

  • What is a blood groove?
     
    Why wrap wire along the hilt of a sword?
     
    Bigger is better with swords, right?
     
    People are so stupid-- why parry with the flat of a blade? Parry with the edge! Even though there's NO eveidence that suggests medieval peeps did this. It's a new style!
     
    Katanas are better than longswords; they are more versatile.Also, because of its shape, a katana has a better chance of returning to you after you throw it.
     
    Dual-wielding is often looked down upon by single-sword snobs that don't want to have to facce two swords at once.
     
    Obsidian is the perfect material for a sword.
     
    Swords shouldn't be able to bend! What is you end up in a bladelock and have to push?
     
    Madass Alex can't out-fence me-- I practice Hitenmitsurugi style!

  • So Saber doesn't use a saber.

  • No, she doesn't. It just sounds cool and better than just "sword".



    It's a problem in a lot of media.
  • edited 2012-11-19 11:50:38

    Saber's name sticks out a bit compared to the others. The other classes are names for people based on something they do/use (an archer practices archery, an assassin assassinates, a lancer uses a lance, so on), but Saber is named after a weapon.


    But I guess making the protagonist's Servant stick out a bit more is something you'd do intentionally.

  • So you're saying that she should have been named something like "stick-swinging loser"?

  • Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    ^^If I didn't know Nasu better, I'd say it was based off the French word "Sabeur".
  • He probably didn't notice because it ended in "-er" anyway, and Fencer didn't sound feminine enough, I guess.

  • Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    ^ Maybe, but Saber was a guy in the first draft but was still called Saber.
  • Wasn't it called "Saver"?

  • I think that was a typo.

  • Probably only on accident, since they're written the same in katakana.


  • Well, as I understand it, it would increase the amount of energy needed to hold/swing it.



    Impossible. Think of it this way, for which one does it take more energy to swing, a Buster Sword or a Buster Sword plus two discs in that same position moving the same way?


    Swordy answer: Think of filling those holes as adding a counterweight to the wrong end.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    But the holes move the center of mass farther away from you.

  • They're making you swing with less torque nonetheless.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    True.


    I maintain that just holding it would be worse like that though.

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    People are so stupid-- why parry with the flat of a blade? Parry with the edge! Even though there's NO eveidence that suggests medieval peeps did this. It's a new style!



    Actually, the idea that medieval people didn't use the edge defensively is ARMA shenanigans. On top of there being archaeological evidence in the form of notched swords, the historical combat manuals also reference intercepting an adversary's weapon with your own edge. This is know as a "displacement" rather than a "parry", though, but the displacement is the basis for the most skillful techniques possible under European methods -- fuhlen and the "Master Strikes" or "Secret Strike". 


    The reason you actually do use the edge with displacements is because the edge of a sword stops incoming energy, whereas the flat of the blade absorbs it. So you parry with the flat of the blade to absorb energy and come back around with your own attack whereas you displace with the edge when you want to stop their weapon in its tracks and use a bypassing technique. The main thing to take home from this is that using your edge to block an incoming attack opens up the possibility of defending yourself and making your own attack in the same breath. This is why a lot of skillful European swordsmanship in particular is a test of mutual aggression, since both swordsmen know they can attack while remaining partially covered. 

  • Actually, the idea that medieval people didn't use the edge defensively is ARMA shenanigans

     
    ...sucker.

    We've already discussed this, anyways.

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