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IJBM, I have one... very important question...
...got a smoke?
More seriously I just got smoking cravings. For the first in a long time. Fortunately everything's closed here and I'm too drunk to justify driving.
Still, gaaah.
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I remember when TVT tried to evangelize some "tv says smoking is cool, imma try it and post how cool i am later" dolt out of trying to smoking.
if that's drama importation, i apologize, you may nuke this post.
Other than that, its no hobby of mine, but if I was, i'd give ya one, Malky.
You quit smoking, then?
^^Long looooong time ago. When I was nineteen.
I fell off the wagon once after a bad break up but that was over a year ago.
The cravings seem to have subsided. Rum seems to have helped.
Good job!
I should probably quit.
But smokes are like a secret social weapon, too.
Smoke actually causes my asthma to play up. Even/especially secondhand smoke.
So clearly, you should stop smoking so that I can go to Melbourne.
^^You know it was the reverse for me.
I can't tell you how many girls in college gave me these looks that made me want to quit that encouraged it.
Of course, being super poor helped.
I hear it's an expensive habit.
In the New York at least. Nine fucking dollars a pack.
Most states are only a few dollars better mind, but still.
>$9 a pack
>not $20 or more
what world do you live on
I was rounding down, but Jesus how do people in Australia afford lung cancer?
I think you can buy some packs for around $17, but most are $20 to $25...
Christ that's like four to five comic books.
It'd probably be better for you to smoke five comic books, too.
I'm kind of awful at helping people quit. See, I'm pretty generous when it comes to handing out cigarettes, so people who know they ought not smoke can get a smoke off me without much hassle. It's kind of like an investment, really. You give out a few cigarettes, someone gets hooked and it all comes back to you later.
/Ed Byrne
The prices in Australia are a direct result of this country's anti-smoking legislation, and personally I think most of it is utter bullshit. I myself would never go anywhere near tobacco, but I don't think a third party should be directly responsible in any way for deciding what adults can and can't put into their bodies.
I mean, what if you like to drink beer a lot? How would you feel if your government started raising alcohol taxes to absolutely ludicrous levels? And forcing all the brewers to overpopulate their labels with warnings along the general lines of "beer kills brain cells"? And making it so that people on national TV aren't allowed to even name brands of alcoholic drink?
Honestly can't tell if you're serious.
Anyway, there may be a link between secondhand smoke and an increase in the number of children with asthma/the severity of asthma in children.
And honestly, I don't have a problem with the government telling people to fuck off with their smoking in pubs, shops and so on, seeing as how it wreaks havoc with my lungs.
I won't deny that non-smoking zones are a good thing, as are non-alcohol zones, but I seriously do not agree with the rest of it.
Well... I dunno.
See, the high price of smokes was a big factor for my mother. She was a chain smoker- she would smoke three, four packs a week. That did tend to cut out a lot of money she could have spent on like, food.
However, on the rare occasion that we did actually have more money than normal, my mother tended to spend it on buying more smokes. And on those weeks, I would often end up in hospital from an asthma attack a few days in.
So... the prices may be ridiculous, but on the other hand, as a limiting factor, it is rather effective. It stops people from buying as many smokes as they otherwise may, and for teenagers without a lot of money, it does tend to stop them from being able to afford a lot. (Except for, you know, smokes bought in schoolyards and stuff, but it's hard to chain-smoke those.)
Thing is, there isn't really a "secondhand drinking" the way there's secondhand smoke.
Not to mention that I don't know of any well-documented benefits to nicotine consumption.
I think easy access to more-or-less effective rehabilitation programs should be plenty help for those who actually want to give it up, be it for their own sake or for the sake of other people that they care about...
If a national government can't provide that, then I guess it doesn't have much choice but to try and force the stuff out of the people's hands, but it's still a management problem that should be solved eventually.
Drunk people are generally more likely to hurt others in situations where they wouldn't dream of it if they were sober. If that's not a second-hand effect of alcohol, I don't know what is.
...okay, that's something I can't really argue.
I thought about drunk people doing bad things, but (1) it isn't guaranteed to happen the way secondhand smoke is a guaranteed stink anytime someone lights up, (2) generally doesn't happen with minor consumption of alcohol (which can't be said of smoking).
Also, annoying behaviors of drunks can be controlled to some extent, dialing down its effects by having people go home and avoid contexts that might get them in trouble, for instance, while you can't really do that with secondhand smoke.
I still smoke from time to time but I have managed to not make it a regular thing through sheer force of will.
Well, honestly, I don't know. I just don't seem to have an addictive personality when it comes to drugs.
I guess Australia's cigarette laws also make it so companies are not even allowed to put logos and stuff on their packages. That does sound a bit stricter than how things are in most countries.
You have to actually get drunk for that to happen. If you drink responsibly, it doesn't. But if you light up a cigarette at all, even just for a few seconds, everyone else in the room gets to breathe it too.
> smoking inside
> unless everyone else is a smoker, too
Yeah, fair enough. But it happens if you do it outside too.
Smoking makes one less fat, perhaps?
The only beef I have with smoking is the disgusting smell that sits in your clothes and clogs up the nostrils. Even 5 minutes in the vicinity is enough for that shit to occur.
As for boozing up, I'm really not the most objective of people on that subject, but the same rules apply as with most drugs: don't do it alone, don't do it when moody, don't it to become a more interesting person, have a tripsitter of sorts at the handy and view your limits as a limit and not something that needs to be overcome.