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I mean, I hope that by approving it I'm not saying anything like "I don't know who this Hitler guy is, but good for you anyway".
Also, passed the final exam. Gave me equivalent of B+, they did. Caught me on some errors, so I was curious how they saw me in the end. Phew. I guess I'll have less on my head for a while now.
She is basically Satan.
No, she's someone who wants to save her best friend but the forces of destiny pretty much actively conspire against her to thwart her every attempt.
She gained the one power game-breaking enough to actually solve the problem and the forces of destiny (or what I can basically summarize as that, without going into spoilers) conspired to make sure she fails, and on top of that, to make sure she fails harder the harder she tries.
It's not that far off from selfishness, just that the one person she puts before everything else isn't herself.
how? / citation needed
Furthermore, it exists outside of the proper timeline, and it was only revealed late in the series. So basically it went like this:
1. Homura gets resetting powers. She can therefore save Madoka.
2. Screw with #1 by making sure that she fails every time, so that she has no way out of this, despite her powers. She still has infinite resetting powers though.
3. Screw further with #1 by making something (i.e. the power level of Madoka's witch form) that gets progressively worse, every time she tries again, and make it exist outside of the proper timeline such that Homura can't reset that either.
Damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.
Only proper response at that point is for Homura to screw with the cosmic forces that are screwing her -- be they the magical girl system, the Incubators and the way they work, or for that matter, the story writers themselves.
I'm not discussing Madoka's motivations. I'm pointing out that the world getting destroyed didn't concern Homura any more than the times Madoka just dies. And it's not out of practicality, she doesn't even act sadder.
And there is no "proper" timeline. Madoka became super powerful because they're all linked together.
Didn't her original personality just suck so much at this that she had to transform herself entirely (into the devil <_< >_>) to get what she wanted?
"What she wanted"=/="Saving the world"
Also I edited my previous post.
They're both failures anyway.
Okay, if you prefer a different wording: the proper chain of cause and effect.
Homura gained the ability to reset time for the entire world, herself included. So why does there suddenly now exist something that she can't reset?
citation needed
also, there's a thing called "saying things while feeling frustrated"
And Homura as a magical girl cannot reset anything. If they were reset than the previous timelines should simply cease to exist rather than connect with later ones.
No, seriously, during the flashback episode 1st Timeline Homura is like this meek little thing who can't really even imagine doing half the things Final Timeline Homura does.
Everything in the world is reset, with the exception of the fact that Homura is now a magical girl and she also remembers everything.
Except, of course, the one detail that was added later, which is that Madoka's witch form becomes a bigger universe-destroying chaos orb.
There's a few hints that this isn't the case and the timelines were always different independent of Homura's actions or Madoka's power level, like the exact details of Junko breaking up and Kyoko's characterization (there's at least one time when she comes to Mitakihara despite Mami still living, which the Kyoko you usually see would rather not do).
I meant figuratively, the outward physical manifestation later is just a representation of how she's done things so far.
Is there anything clarifying this aside from vague hints? How can these not be explained by a butterfly effect? And even if they can, they'd be just features added in to prevent Homura from succeeding.
Of course there isn't. The show never bothered to be all that clear about how anyone's powers worked. But there's no reason these differences would happen if things were just sent back to exactly where they were at the start rather than Homura going through timelines that were different from the get-go.
That would require rejecting that rules about how things work are even valid or at least assuming the existence of some unseen force that's capable of conscious decisions despite never being shown.
But the fact that there can a connection between multiple timelines presumes the existence outside of time of that mechanism that allows Madoka's witch form to become infinitely mechanism, in the first place.
So why are they different? I mean, do we have a plausible way to go from this extra-temporal mechanism to making these changes?
Besides, we're not actually shown these timelines fully so one can't firmly conclude that it isn't a butterfly effect.
This is one of my criticisms of it and part of why I think it'd be better served if there were showing rather than telling and also more episodes to actually do that showing. But this is an aside to the current dispute.
Except, as you noted, those rules aren't properly explained anyway. Instead, they're basically applied however the writers feel they need to apply them.