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There aren't that many animesque works with setting or stories atypical for that style of art
By animesque I include anime and other Japanese media.
For example, stories about Medieval European (-style?) politics and warfare, or cartoonish FPS games, or heavy metal bands.
My dad was just now watching some movie about some political conflict and warfare on the British isles (not sure whether it's historical fantasy or just dramatized history, but it involved kings named Richard and John), and I was thinking, y'know, I'd enjoy this so much more if the colors were more crisp and the soundtrack were less culture-specific or something.
I'm probably offending a few people by saying this, but it's just true that I'd be more interested in watching it if that were the case. Say, if you replaced the vaguely Celtic-sounding music with, say, a modern pop or rock tune, or some light piano.
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Actually, for that last bit, I want to say, something along the lines of the anime soundtrack style. Anime soundtracks are fond of using light classical instrumentation and writing, like piano or piano plus strings. But more importantly, they seem to put a much greater emphasis on classical-style melody and harmony, in comparison with western soundtracks which seem more oriented (on average) toward ambience when using simple instrumentation.
Teen Titans?
Personally, I'd take Celtic music over rock or pop any day when it comes to medieval stuff. Celtic music is underused in that kind of media anyway, especially in games. It's all sweeping, soaring orchestras, and I feel one of the places where the LotR films distinguished themselves was in the music. If you listen to the Shire music, it has very distinct Celtic phrasing and feel; Rohan's music is much more Germanic and solemn.
Instrumentation, phrasing and arrangement are all key, and more isn't necessarily better. One of the things I think make the bagpipes (of whichever variant you like) such a great solo instrument/aural weapon is its drone, which provides a little harmonic context to whatever it's playing; a bagpipe can fill a little or a lot of space depending on how it's used, which is impressive for an instrument played one tone at a time. Violins make excellent compliment instruments as they very naturally come to the same lilting style of melody. Throw in a cello and a double bass and you've got everything you need for a versatile array of Celtic tunes.
... I should get back to writing music. And remember how to play the Celtic stuff I "wrote" (see: improvised and semi-retained).
Personally, I prefer my music to fit the mood and the character. Having rock music in a time where the concept didn't even exist kinda ruins that feel. Of course, by that logic, sweeping orchestras shouldn't be in medieval times either, but it's closer to that time's music.
Really, I'd just be happy with more anime that doesn't boil down to DBZ ripoffs, Pokemon ripoffs, Sailor Moon ripoffs, giant mechas, or sophomoric harem fantasies.
^^Depends on the mood the movie is going for. I mean as shit as 300 was could you really see it as having anything other than thrash metal for a soundtrack?
Yeah, like I said, it needs to feel the mood. Most movies set in medieval times go for an epic serious sort of feel. 300 is...well, it's supposed to be serious but also stupidly over the top
Yeah, well I'm just saying it wouldn't be that out of place for a Conan movie or the coming RuroKen movie (despite being pretty historically accurate) to have epic guitar riffs.
Let's examine this:
Understandable, a figthing series with just power level creeps is uninteresting
Mon series tend to be quite merchandise driven, yes.
Here I have to disagree with the notion of ripoff, unless you call FPS doom ripoffs. It spawned a genre.
Easy boy, or I'll break into your house and tear your wife in half!
Complete agreement.
I'd just prefer it if there were recent examples of each one (That doesn't involve stuff like "The latest Digimon sequel" or something)
A recent example of non-sequel mecha would be Star Driver, which is really good a series. A good recent harem...tough one. On the magical girl sentai I guess you might not count the latest Precure as an example for being a sequel series...A recent mon series...I have come up with nothing.
Yeah it's pretty much what I was thinking. Regardless complaining about "Giant robots" to me seems much like complaining about "vampires" in recent movies. I could accept an over exposure argument but to be honest, the issue with over exposure is not really the fact that there's a market saturation but that it allows for laziness ("Just throw X and call it a day, man")
Of course, being tired of giant robots is acceptable (Not like it's really a good argument against a series but whatever)
I'm not sure I'd characterize Star Driver as a mecha series so much as a magical girl series (but with a guy).
skimming the wiki-page, it says that he pilots a giant mecha.
i'd say that's good enough, although there really isn't much stopping it from being both a mecha series and a magical girl series.
He does, but every aspect of the series bears more resemblance to magical girl shows than to mecha shows.
You seem to imply that a mecha show has set plot characteristics. Which is misleading at best and disingenious at worst.
That's not really what I meant; what I meant was more that if you asked me to put a genre label on the series, mecha wouldn't be the first thing that jumped to mind, despite the fact that it is also a mecha series.
The thing is, that implies mecha shows have set characteristics apart from having robots. "Oh, it's a dude with a giant robot" is all that takes to make it a mecha. Saying that it being a mecha doesn't come to mind when the posters have a giant robot on the background is not really believable unless you imply based on the plot structure and character arcs that it doesn't seem like one, which is meaningless on itself.
Again, I'm not saying that it isn't a mecha series. I'm saying that of the two genres it occupies, the one that has the most influence on the work, and the one I think of more in hindsight after watching the show, is the magical girl genre.
Who ever said you said it wasn't?
Well, you were talking about how mecha shows had set characteristics other than the mecha, which I thought implied that you thought I was saying that it wasn't really a mecha show or something. Idunno. It's possible that I just shouldn't debate stuff at 2 AM.
I said mecha shows don't have set characterisitics other than the mecha. and pegging a mecha as something other than mecha is meaningless because a mecha show can already do whatever it wants. mecha is just a descriptor for "show with robots in it, most likely, huge ones".
guys guys guys let's not get into genre semantics debates. the fact is that star driver is a show that does things with giant robots and borrows from magical girls
is it really that important which is more of which
What about Rinne no Lagrange? Recent, non-sequel, mecha and good. Smile! Precure probably doesn't count because all things considered it's mediocre so far. Bakutech! Bakugan is the most recent mon show i can think of but all things considered is a very merchandise driven show with a strict formula.
Honestly, I don't see many of these shows aside from the annoying harems being done a lot, so I don't get why this would be annoying at all. In fact, I don't think I've actually ever seen Sailor Moon being ripped off...
Just to count, this season has:
And only a handful count as what you mentioned.
Mysterious Girlfriend X is not a harem. It's a boy-meets-girl romance story.
That's what separates Star Driver from Magic Knight Rayearth so it IS important.
On the other hand, you may count Symphogear.
Actually, it's less "borrows from magical girls" and more "is nearly identical to Revolutionary Girl Utena except with G Gundam instead of fairy tales".
In any case though yes it is a recent show that doesn't totally suck that is about super robots.
Shut your whore mouth.
Or rather, its main flaw is that it's not Heartcatch.
Detroit Metal City?
Of course it sucks, but hey, it is anime about a metal band.
:O
Also, vandro forgot to list Jewelpet Kira Deco. :c
Not that that is any of the things Bee listed either, really.