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No True Scotsman

edited 2012-05-11 19:19:34 in General

"True" doesn't mean "existing" or "is not a falsehood" here, alright? "True" here means "proper". So a proper Scotsman doesn't put sugar on his porridge; such is not proper Scottish etiquette (hypothetically).


Just thought I'd clear that up.

Comments

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    People don't get that?

  • You can change. You can.

    While I know that, I think that it being "true" as in "He's not really an scotman by birth" also works for the purposes of the logical exercise.

  • edited 2012-05-11 19:34:45

    ^ "True" is probably the most common one in practice, though, as in "true PC gamer".

  • You can change. You can.

    ...I don't get your point.

  • That, in some respects, the No True Scotsman fallacy is more a semantics issue than an actual fallacy.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Ummm...no it's not?



    It means redefining terms to make your argument right.
  • edited 2012-05-11 20:09:51
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    ^^No. No it's not.


    The way it goes is that a proud Scotsman says 'A Scotsman would never murder someone' and when pointed out that Scots have done that he'd then say 'No true Scotsman would murder someone' which is about attaching arbitrary rules to what something is or isn't to suit yourself personally.

  • Yeah, it's when people go "oh that person [somethingsomething]? Then he's not really a [X]" It's kinda deciding for yourself who people are.

  • They told me I could think critically...


    ...so I tried challenging one of the classic logical fallacies on its veracity.


    It didn't work out.

  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    So you wanted to say that most claimed cases of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy are not true cases of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy?

  • ^^ Go for ad hominem, everybody misuses that one.

  • But you never had any to begin with.

    No true critical thinker would question the veracity of fallacies!

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