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The problem with nerd fiction

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  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Let us bring up The Sandman again, then. We have next to no information about the setting, except for what little snippets we are given. This actually helps the story, because a large part of the narrative is about your interpretation of the work and what is going on.


    In this case, further defining the setting would actually take away from much of what makes the story good.

  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    I think the problem here is that while it's quite possible to observe that something is often good, no solid rule saying that one thing will improve any story will work.

  • ZennistradZennistrad
    edited 2012-04-01 20:41:15

    Many great pieces of literature have very vague settings and start in media res, with the reader having to learn everything along the way and use his own intuition to fill the gaps. Most existentialist novels are like that.


    To be honest, I've had a great deal of difficulty enjoying works of that nature. Trying to find solutions to unanswerable questions is an exercise in frustration in my experience. It's one of the reasons I didn't like reading The Giver in English class, though the story was very well-written and thought-provoking, without being able to figure out the context I just lost interest entirely. So many of the people I talked to said it was a great book, but with so much left unknown about the setting I found it utterly forgettable.

  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    This thread started pretty deep down and now it's in sitting with Judas in the jaws of Lucifer.


    World-building doesn't automatically make a story great, nor does it automatically diminish it.


    It's not about what a story does, but how well it does it.

  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    You don't fuckin' say.

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.

    This thread started pretty deep down and now it's in sitting with Judas in the jaws of Lucifer.



    This thread wishes it was Judas in the jaws of Lucifer, trust me.

  • MyrmidonMyrmidon

    It's actually Cassius!

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.

    I was thinking Brutus, but that works too, I guess.

  • PonicalicaPonicalica
    (void)

    Poor Cassius, nobody ever remembers him.

  • EelektrossEelektross
    edited 2012-04-01 23:30:47
    Definitely not gay.

    Trollolololololololololol


     


    Also, plagiarism is bad Myrmidon

  • MyrmidonMyrmidon

    Even when it's from this asshole?

  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET

    How deliciously offensive. It's like chan chauvinism with a monocle.


     

  • ninjaclownninjaclown

    Found it.

  • MyrmidonMyrmidon

    I find it funny that a man who tries that hard to sound like a refined yet acid-tongued gentleman has people with usernames like "Blumpkin McNiggerfart" running around on his personal forums.

  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Incidentally:



    Its inbred character is apparent from the very first words of the prologue--the writer can't wait to tell you how little you know about his world.



    I'm not sure how "we have to start back" accomplishes that :P

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.

    So many of the people I talked to said it was a great book, but with so much left unknown about the setting I found it utterly forgettable.



    And yet here you are, talking about it and explaining why you didn't like it. :P

  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    >Looks through thread on a lark


    >Person calls Umberto Eco a hack.


    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT BALLS DO THESE DUMBFUCKS HAVE?

  • MyrmidonMyrmidon
    edited 2012-04-02 18:59:10

    I doubt the guy who wrote that has actually read much fantasy fiction. It's how he goes from bitching about dwarves and elves being a necessity in fantasy fiction to talking about a fantasy series that has a grand total of one dwarf, by which I mean a human being with dwarfism and no elves.

  • MyrmidonMyrmidon

    Also:http://mpcdot.com/forums/index.php?/topic/2847-do-paranoids-dream-of-electric-jews/

  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    Is DADOES a critique of Jewish influence?

    NOPE

  • EelektrossEelektross
    Definitely not gay.
     
    Even when it's from this asshole?
     

    Two wrongs don't make a right.

  • MyrmidonMyrmidon

    No, but two rights make a left.

  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Isn't it three rights?

  • MyrmidonMyrmidon

    Whatever, this guy is still a jackass.

  • EelektrossEelektross
    Definitely not gay.

    Doesn't make plagiarizing him righteous, though.

  • MyrmidonMyrmidon

    It's not like I'm submitting his ideas as a paper, I was just copy pasting him to pull an April Fool's joke.

  • EelektrossEelektross
    Definitely not gay.

    Oh, OK.


    And it worked, apparently.

  • SaigyoujiSaigyouji
    But you never had any to begin with.
    Myrmidon does this all the time. It's not some sort of unexpected event.
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