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Men's Rights Movement labeled a 'hate group' by the Southern Poverty Law Center
2012-03-08 20:06:09
edited 2012-03-08 20:06:09 in Meatspace
We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
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Accurate.
That's a bit extreme, don't you think?
Read the article.
What the HELL
^^^ you have never been on the men's rights subreddit or seen the bile that comes from there have you.
^ Admittedly no.
-reads the article-
Okay, I can see where they're coming from.
"he offered tips on making Molotov cocktails and urged his readers to use them against courthouses and police stations"
Fucking hell.
Self-immolation is pretty terrible, but stuff like this
All he had done, he said, was smack his 4-year-old daughter and bloody her mouth after she licked his hand as he was putting her to bed. Feminist-crafted anti-domestic violence legislation did the rest.
is making it really hard for me to feel sorry for him. Also, blah blah MRA blah blah
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Like, someone tell me this is satire. I may not appreciate their sense of humor but at least I might be able to sleep at night.
^^Is it wrong that I found that hilarious? In a blackly comedic way? It's the way he tried to make it seem so trite.
^The dude IS kind of a walking caricature, I gotta say.
Is it just my eyes being opened to an uglier-than-I-once-thought reality, or have ultra-conservative movements around the world gained intensity in the last couple decades, especially the last few years? Christian fundamentalism, Islamic fundamentalism, violent anti-feminism, violent nativism, xenophobia, violent survivalism, and general beliefs involving desiring to "restore" or rather revert to older societal/ethical/moral systems, ones which almost always involve inequity favoring those who are selfish and defensive?
Edit: I might as well make this a whole separate topic.
I <3 Karl Rove
The whole "Register-Her" thing especially bothered me, even though the violent stuff is worse. I really do not think the idea of making lists of people you hate ever does much good.
Plus, for as much as the internet helps bring people together in a constructive way, I have to think that it also probably plays a role in helping to organize groups like the MRA by putting people with extreme views in touch with each other. I would think that their discussions tend to reinforce their views and help spread those messed up ideas.
"Plus, for as much as the internet helps bring people together in a constructive way, I have to think that it also probably plays a role in helping to organize groups like the MRA by putting people with extreme views in touch with each other. I would think that their discussions tend to reinforce their views and help spread those messed up ideas."
Bingo. The ostracism deterrent isn't as effective when you can find outlets to dodge it.
...so I notice you guys haven't been following Manboobz for very long, because you're surprised these guys exist.
ew
^^ I used to rely on /r/ShitRedditSays for my MRA shit, but now that they've placed a permanent moratorium on them, I may have to...
What annoys me is that there are legitimate issues that affect men, issues of equality and justice that the feminist movement is not the best equipped to handle (being primarily focussed on the inequality toward and injustice toward women, and this isn't a bad thing; focus is useful).
These nuts make it almost impossible to talk about these things.
(I tend to automatically expand "MRA" to "Male Rape Apologist" in my head. It disturbs me how often this is accurate.)
Frankly the rape apology is the least disturbing thing about MRAs.
But otherwise, totally agreed with Morven.
Interestingly, meanwhile, one of the catchphrases of the feminist movement is 'Patriarchy Hurts Men Too'. Whilst it isn't their focus, it's remarkable how much feminist activism can free things up for men.
^^^^^ I hope they are mysoginist enough to go, "If a man gets beaten up by a woman, then he deserves it for being a weak pansy" before pissing off some body builders, boxers, etc.
If your sentence begins "I hope they are mysoginist enough" that's a good sign you should reconsider the rest of the sentence. Especially because that's not how you spell misogynist.
What's really bizarre is when they go on about how it's white women who are terrible for daring to assert their own identity and how they'd rather FUCK the SHIT out of some sweet, submissive Asian girl. Guess what? Everyone else wants to be treated as a person too.
I'd hate to break it to them that Asian girls aren't actually any more sweet and submissive than white girls.
Or wait, did I say "hate"? I mean "love".