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People who think making the government bigger will cause corruption.

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  • TuefelHundenIVTuefelHundenIV
    Patrol Time
    http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ilikewerethisthreadisgo.jpg
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    well that was a stupid move they should have amde an amendment right away for b ot h that and Jury nullification.
  • TuefelHundenIVTuefelHundenIV
    Patrol Time
    I am amazed at the amount of "experts" on the U.S. Government, Law, and The Constitution we have in this thread.

    Really there is no such thing as simple when it comes to government.
  • delta534delta534
    Tech support
    Though I have not posted much in this thread, when did I claim to be an expert. :p
  • TuefelHundenIVTuefelHundenIV
    Patrol Time
    Oh not you delta.  But some of these people are going way out in the weeds. 
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Whatever society is fucked anyway.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I'm pretty much running off of my high school civics class that I have yet to complete.

    @Tnu: That's the spirit!  :D
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    yeah if the only two directions are Anarchey wh ich is apperently bad and Totalitarianism which is certainly bad then we're fucked any middle gorund would just implament aspects of these bad thigns according to eveyrone else.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Except no, because that's a false dichotomy.  Oppressive Totalitarianism and Complete Anarchy aren't the only two options.


  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    give me Liberty or give me death honestly at this point I don't care which.
  • delta534delta534
    Tech support
    Tuef, I know, the statement I made was meant to be tounge-in-cheek.
  • TuefelHundenIVTuefelHundenIV
    Patrol Time
    Aye I figured as much sorry Poe's law in my response.

    Tnu: Try to not let your paranoia and cynicism get the best of you.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I'd rather be a meerkat then a lemming.
  • TuefelHundenIVTuefelHundenIV
    Patrol Time
    More like a overly paranoid nut.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    exactly a meerkat.
  • TuefelHundenIVTuefelHundenIV
    Patrol Time
    Which are nuts and balance vigilance with practicality.


  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Admittedly i'm scared thistless of the slippery slope
  • CommandoDudeCommandoDude
    CRIMINAL SCUM!
    Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
  • TuefelHundenIVTuefelHundenIV
    Patrol Time
    Relax most slopes are no where near as slippery as many make them out to be.  There is always bumps place that stop it.  Remember there are always people fighting on behalf of the people and contrary to popular belief they do actually win.

    The more extremely you react the more likely you are to be dismissed out of hand.  Vigilance is good but don't get carried away.
  • DiamonnesDiamonnes
    That's what i tried to explain. Slippery Slope Fallacy is bad, dudes. (Warning religious dribble)

    A concept central to pagan religions is balance, which is something I've learned to take to heart. If both poles are undesirable, it means that a centrepoint is the best solution. Likewise, if there are two poles, it's extremely likely that more things fall between the poles than on both of the poles combined.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Tnu, picture that slippery slope you're so afraid of.

    Look closer. It's covered in glue! It's not so slippery after all! :D
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    yeah right. i've been tetering on the edge of madness foryears now and i'm sick of it.
  • TurtleTurtle
    I like turtles.
    And that's why they left interpretation up to people of the future.  And even added a provision for amendments.
    So... what?  Are we honestly expected to think that the Founders sat in a room one day and thought "gee, people aren't always going to agree with what we put in the Constitution, so we'd better make sure they can contradict us and distort its original meaning!"?  No, they didn't.

    And the purpose of amendments is to safeguard the original principles inherent in the document, not to subvert them.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    I have to disagree with you Turtle you honestly are startign to come off as a socially conservative authoritarian bigot who wan ts to make people conform to strict religio us way of thinking and establish a Theocracy.
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