You know what, just forget it.

Wicked223 · 2011-05-10 21:12:08

The only thing I remember about Elfen Lied is how frustrated I was that no seemed to realize that the diclonii were fucking homicidal.

snowbull · 2011-05-10 21:12:08

IJBM: No one READS Elfen Lied

that's where all the real shit was

All Nines · 2011-05-10 21:13:48

^^ Not all of them were bad. Many of them, but not all. If I recall correctly, Nana was a total sweetheart. Though yeah, they were genetically predisposed towards murderous feelings, but not all of them were that bad.

^ Maaaybe.

Vorpy · 2011-05-10 21:14:29

The only thing I remember about Elfen Lied is how frustrated I was that no seemed to realize that the diclonii were fucking homicidal.

They were homicidal by nature because it was a drive in them to exterminate the lesser species (in other words, human beings). There were just some who didn't enable that homocidal spark in themselves because they liked some humans.

snowbull · 2011-05-10 21:15:10

WHICH WAS WHY PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED IN TREATING THEM LIKE SHIT

GUH

Vorpy · 2011-05-10 21:18:00

Well it's a top secret laboratory underground filled with sick fucks (the director and his son) doing experiments on cute wittle mutants who progressively become evil and easily slaughter people and rip them to pieces, while also stripping them naked and trying to use them as weapons. What easier way to enable the drive to kill humans then by being stuck in a fucked up place like that anyway? The Diclonius were fucked up and should be erased, and the people in charge of "containing" them were justified in being killed by them. Enabling them to live past birth was a mistake anyway.

snowbull · 2011-05-10 21:18:46

Thank god they solved that in the end. Sterilizations for everyone!

All Nines · 2011-05-10 21:19:53

One of the things I didn't like about the series was how there were so few good human characters, as there were so few good diclonii (not that the latter isn't justified within the context of the story). I would very much hope that the odds of all of the scientists being so monstrous in such a situation is much lower than the show would like you to believe.

I don't mind grimdark when it actually makes a tiny bit of sense.

Vorpy · 2011-05-10 21:29:59

The thing I hate to admit is the fact that for the most part, the whole laboratory part of the story was badly written. Rather than make the scientists Scientifically Evil , or have some kind of drive to be doing that kind of shit, it felt more like a voyeurism device in the story used to portray mindless torture for no apparent reason.

The other humans were major dicks, and the children were overly cruel assholes. They even added one who did so many fucked up things that they didn't even bother to give him a name. The human crimes outweigh the diclonius crimes by a longshot, which makes the Diclonius feel too justified in ripping people apart, ripping their heads off and splattering them across the walls, which should be bad if it's not people with guns or insane perverts with God complexes.

It would have been perfectly for the scientists to chain the girls to walls, naked, or shoot them in the head with iron balls or ~~violate them~~ if...you know, they had a reason to?

All Nines · 2011-05-10 21:33:52

Exactly. I rarely found any reason to be feeling sorry for anyone who was getting torn limb from limb because they were such bastards, and the glorification of the diclonii ultimately felt justified, in a way, even if only because the show forced that. Or at least, I was rooting for them, even though plenty of other people would have likely taken the route of portraying diclonii as the monsters they really were/ought to have been, given what we learned of them, rather than as sexy young girls who can get away with murder in the eyes of the audience because they're sexy.

snowbull · 2011-05-10 21:36:23

^^Hey, the nameless man was awesome.

And a pedophile.

And a rapist.

...

wow

All Nines · 2011-05-10 21:37:40

^ Wuuuuuut.

Vorpy · 2011-05-10 21:38:37

@ Snowbull

No spoilers please, I don't think Everest got that far.

When I first watched the anime, and saw Lucy ripping people to pieces, my mind was geared towards "how would you kill something that strong? This is going to get intense...". It built up a feeling of a forboding being that was murder-happy and gave off a psychological gory horror anime feel. Eventually it came to somebody having a secret pet monster in their house who was also in love with them, which I didn't mind either because I think that was cute. The problem is that it's hard to merge a dramatic tragedy, a love story, and a gory horror show together without tripping over a lot of writing mines.

snowbull · 2011-05-10 21:42:04

I never watched the anime, I heard it sucked

more so than the comic

^^You know, that guy without a name

Tried to rape that one chick

All Nines · 2011-05-10 21:46:23

^ I know that. I just wondered where the "he's awesome" part came from.

^^ I finished the anime, and I read about some of the stuff that happened in the manga, so I'm not entirely in the dark.

Vorpy · 2011-05-10 21:48:09

If you read the Manga, the Anime stops at the part where Mariko and Lucy fight.

snowbull · 2011-05-10 21:49:30

^^I rememeber he had a cool hat

I might just be imagineing that

Vorpy · 2011-05-10 23:01:59

No, he looked vaguely like Hellsing, except he was a rapist and a pedophile and delighted in torturing women for no reason. Contrast the reason people want to become furries. Compare the reason KHsas was nuked.

Bob · 2011-05-10 23:06:46

"Riri 42"

"secretist"

Who?

"I want a creepy side-kick that everyone hates."

~~Dude, don't you have two of those?~~

And WTF was this Topic about? Why must you do this, Myr? Why? Why?!

Vorpy · 2011-05-10 23:11:02

Riri 42 is this passive-agressive faggot "lurker".

secretist is the strange robot girl that everyone keeps pairing me up with in shipping wars.

i don't have any sidekicks that like yugioh, Elfen Lied, Higurashi+Umineko, Blood+, Monster collecting, FFXII or Beetlejuice, Or any sidekicks with egregrious opinion myopia. or royal blood.

Also, thread was complaining about Fallout 3.

Vorpy · 2011-05-11 00:47:52

Also this.

snowbull · 2011-05-11 07:52:10

"Compare the reason KHsas was nuked."

We don't even know what that was!

Vorpy · 2011-05-11 11:54:46

~~Because I reported it. DUH. WINNING~~

It was deleted for no known reason, and no reason at all.

Komodin · 2011-05-11 12:17:08

Would I be judged negatively if I said that I reported that thread?

Nyarly · 2011-05-11 12:38:07

Not by me. But probably by anyone else.

MillerCross · 2011-05-11 12:40:31

Bleh, I hated that thread. You're my hero for reporting it.

Vorpy · 2011-05-11 12:42:39

Stop being such a fucking poser, Komodin. You are just trying to be edgy and cool.

Nyarly · 2011-05-11 12:46:04

And you are trying to be vorp, Vorpy. Granted, you are vorp, since you are Vorpy after all, but still...

Vorpy · 2011-05-11 12:48:12

I am Vorpy, for I am many, and only. And since I actually admitted to reporting the thread in the first place and not trying to ride on some body else's winds to try to irritate those who enjoyed the thread, or jumping on the "oh I did something horrible too!" bandwagon.

snowbull · 2011-05-11 17:06:20

Why they didn't they just move it to the roleplaying forum? That's all it was!

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