›
If you have an email ending in @hotmail.com, @live.com or @outlook.com (or any other Microsoft-related domain), please consider changing it to another email provider; Microsoft decided to instantly block the server's IP, so emails can't be sent to these addresses.
If you use an @yahoo.com email or any related Yahoo services, they have blocked us also due to "user complaints"
-UE

Rottweiler got banned

1…1213151718…26

Comments

  • BlackHumorBlackHumor
    BH, this thread was created to discuss me.

    I offer no apologies for disappointing you if you'd prefer discussions of me occur without me, behind my back.

    Again, not saying that; I'm referring to you turning the thread about you being banned into a thread about aristocracy/Christianity within two pages.

    It hadn't derailed before that, so it kinda had to have been you.
  • Pvtnum11Pvtnum11

    Rott, you got banned?


    ...Wondering if/when I'll say something ban-worthy and get myself banned.

  • BlackHumorBlackHumor
    @pvt: Unlikely, you're not rude about what you say.
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    Inside, too dark to read
    Thanks, random and Ian.

    BH, again I make no apology for the fact that you consider talking about me behind my back in a thread titled "Rottweiler got banned" on-topic and speak for myself  a derail. If it derailed your fun, your fun wasn't very sporting.
  • Caissas_DeathAngelCaissas_DeathAngel
    My name is Addy - Caissa is the Goddess of Chess, whom I serve in my capacity as the Pawn Slayer.
    You know Rott, you ignored my post earlier on this page if you'd care to reply?
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    Inside, too dark to read
    @Addy: Others will say I'm derailing the thread by having the audacity to reply to direct questions.

    Anyway...
    why is there something innately wrong with having sex purely for
    pleasure? Why can't that be a tangible benefit in itself, and why
    therefore is it immoral for those who cannot reproduce to have sex?

    Pleasure is not the telos of sex. The pleasure evolved because it gave organisms positive feedback for performing the reproductive act.

    So what end do homosexual acts lead to?
  • snowbullsnowbull
    Cue-bey
    Do what end do heterosexual acts lead to? Over population?
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-04-26 21:38:10

    [Comment deleted]



  • ViviVivi
    edited 2011-04-25 18:38:46
    $80+ per session
    "So what end do homosexual acts lead to?"

    The back end.

    ^It's not always a burden...
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    Inside, too dark to read
    @snowbull: I just told you what the telos is.

    @Bob: So you're claiming that the telos of homosexual sex is reproduction minus the burden of children?
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-04-26 21:38:23

    [Comment deleted]

  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    Because you never know what you might see.
    I dislike the term telos.  It implies that purpose is an inherent property of actions or objects, rather than something which is created by human beings.
  • NyktosNyktos
    a little muffled
    @Rottweiler: So is it wrong to have sex with an infertile person?
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-04-26 21:37:46

    [Comment deleted]
    [Reason: Shitpost]



  • LoneWolfEburgLoneWolfEburg
    edited 2011-04-25 23:09:10
    Also, people who sell bread are immoral. The telos of bread is being eaten, not being sold. Same can be said about people who sell other stuff - manufacturers of shoes are immoral, because they sell their shoes, instead of wearing them - being worn is the telos of the shoes. Thus, we've established that commerce and business are inherently immoral. Which leads us to the conclusion that the only moral people in the world are those who despise commerce - and traditionally, that were landowning feudal aristocrats. Thus, we've revealed the inherent amorality of current deMOCKratic bourgeois society, and the morality of the Middle Ages, a truly moral system destroyed by Lucifer's "Enlightenment".

    Paleoconservatism is cool.
  • StormtroperStormtroper
    What about trading cards?
  • LoneWolfEburgLoneWolfEburg
    I'm utterly confused as to what the telos of trading cards is. Therefore, they do not have any telos at all, and are very immoral.
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-04-26 21:37:38

    [Comment deleted]
    [Reason: Shitpost]



  • FrodoGoofballCoTVFrodoGoofballCoTV

    A belated "Welcome!" to Bon and Rott.  I'm glad you've joined us!

    Also, FYI, I am anti-Rott-haters, though sometimes I DO wish he'd stop talking in formal language unnecessarily, for whatever that's worth.

    Which leads us to the conclusion that the only moral people in the world are those who despise commerce - and traditionally, that were landowning feudal aristocrats.

    Actually, landowning feudal aristocrats also practiced commerce.  For example, they sometimes purchased supplies for castles from neighboring kingdoms.   The hypocracy! 

  • BonSequiturBonSequitur
    As a petty and vindictive person, I have to take extra steps not to appear petty and vindictive.
    But Eburg, selling something does contribute to its purpose (I refuse to use a Hellenism when there is a perfectly good English word. C.f., 'weltanschauung') in that it drives that something towards its ultimate purpose; every step of the way towards the purpose serves the purpose, although you can argue some part of the process is superfluous or inefficient. So you can argue that having bakers who make bread for many people and sell their bread is inefficient or a bad way of fulfilling the purpose of the bread, but you can't argue that it doesn't fulfil the purpose.

    Of course, purpose is subjective. Any teleological moral argument has about as much authority as random lake-dwelling tarts handing out swords as a basis for a allocating executive power in a system of government. Indeed, teleological thinking in general is only valid in the context of the applied sciences and humanities, because purpose isn't a feature of the universe but rather a human frame of reference towards objects social or physical.
  • BastionBastion
    smote
    Morbidly curious though I may be about how "the telos of eros is babies" squares with enjoying BDSM, I know nothing good can come from asking.
  • LoneWolfEburgLoneWolfEburg
    Porn is immoral because the telos of sex is babies, not being shown on TV.

    And I thought that the ridiculousness of my previous post shows that I am engaging in subtle mocking of poor Rott.
  • vandrovandro
    He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.
    Poe's Law, LoneWolfEburg. Poe's Law.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    To be honest, once upon a time I argued against homosexuality by saying that the point of sex is procreation, and thus homosexuals are going against this natural order.  However, someone then countered that my argument would mean that infertile heterosexual couples engaging in sexual intercourse would also be a travesty against nature...at which point I decided that my argument sprang from a subconscious notion that homosexuality was icky, and thereafter decided that it was neither my right nor a good idea to care about whether other people do totally icky stuff that does not interfere with other people.

    > Of course, purpose is subjective.

    Precisely.  Speaking of which, my using a stack of D&D books to prop up a computer monitor is also against its natural purpose.
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    edited 2011-04-26 16:39:43
    Inside, too dark to read
    You know, the first step to successfully mocking Aristotle would be reading him.

    That's how Hobbes managed. Get back to me when one of you is clever as him.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I need not read the writings of any philosopher in order to debate philosophy, my good sir.

    Philosophical arguments are only as convincing as the form they take, between venue, speaker, diction, and audience, when presented.
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    Inside, too dark to read
    I need not read the writings of any philosopher in order to debate philosophy, my good sir.

    Hey Myr, let's hit a bar and weep together.
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon
    You got it man. 
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    The same idea is the same, no matter who presents it, be it a pauper on an inner-city street or a billionaire sitting in his oceanfront private office.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    edited 2011-04-26 16:47:42
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    You know, Rott, if you're going to insist that everyone who debates with you has to read [philosophical text] first, why even bother arguing? Why not just post a philosophy reading list every time you enter a thread?
Sign In or Register to comment.