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The strange Persecution Complex Christians tend to get.
A lot of Christians--especially the more Conservative ones--tend to view anything that isn't ass-kissing of Christianity as persecution. I never got why. Even people simply practicing other religions is an "attack" on Christianity. And even though Christians form over 70% of The US's population, they always act like they're the last surviving Christians fighting the evils of the sinful world, like they're martyrs for their faith, when they enjoy privilege (since Christianity is the only religion in America that won't get you odd looks for practicing).
That "I'm a martyr" thing has made me jokingly call this the "Jesus Complex". But it's still kind of aggravating.
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Next time you post anything, ever, think to yourself "If I were going to pick what I'm saying apart and find a problem with it, what would I find?"
You will find it probably will save you a lot of time and aggravation, and you will sound far more intelligent as you integrate that kind of critical questioning into the way you post naturally, as you'll be less likely to make threads and points that people instantly want to tear to pieces, because you'll find out whats wrong with your arguments yourself, rather than having the horde that is IJBM descend upon you to point out how wrong you are about something.
And make no mistake, they can, and will, do this for damn near anything you post, because you have a reputation for being stupid, and from what I've seen of your threads so far, its fully justified because you don't seem to take into account that things may not be as you percieve them. You really need to curb that tendency if you intend to ever be taken seriously.
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... who are frum around here.
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEAH!!!
My understanding is that "13 million" includes all the ethnically Jewish atheists. You'd have to drop several million if counting those...
1) Likewise, not everyone considers all of the 70% or so that are typically categorized as Christians, to be "true Christians". For example, ther are some fundamentalists who don't consider Mormons to be Christians, some athiests would like to see agnostics who identify as Christians reclassified, etc.
2) Even discounting (1) there is a general demographic trend away from Christianity and towards Islam, secularism, etc., in many countries.
3) There has also been a general trend specifically away from Christian cultural traditions and artifacts within government in the U.S. and some other countries. For example, "Christmas" celebrations in some cities being replaced with "winter holiday", prayer actively discouraged in schools, etc. Simultaneously, there has been a movement toward alternative traditions, such as schools holding a Kwanza celebration or teaching students about Islam in public elementary school in predominantly Christian towns - something that would have happened rarely if at all just a few decades ago.
4) Christian culture, traditions, etc., are routinely mocked, criticised, steriotyped, etc. in the media, by artists, etc. While Muslims, Jews, and other groups are also targetted in this manner, there is a sense amung more conservative Christians that there is an attitude that mocking other religions is questionable at best, but Christianity is viewed as an Acceptable Target by the mainstram media.
5) More liberal Christians increasingly have begun to move away from what more conservitive Christians feel is an integral part of the religion - e.g., belief in Hell and Satan, marriage within the church as between 1 man and 1 woman, etc.
So from that point of view it's hardly surprising some Christians feel a sense of concern for the future of their beleif system.
"You'd have to drop several million if counting those"
Hardly.
There aren't very many jews in the world. Which range from 13 to 18 mill. This includes secular jews. 40% live in isreal. Another 40% live in America. I'd say there are a million secular jews in America tops.
Thank you for being so blantantly anti-intellectual.
And you may be the first person to ever seriously defend Chagen in, like, ever.
Gigantala, is there a reason that you're necroing threads that have been dead for more than a year without even saying anything discussion worthy?
I thought Christianity and necromancy didn't mix. I guess I was wrong...
Considering Jesus rose three days after he died, I'd say necromancy and Christianity go together just fine.
Isn't that just delayed auto-revive?
Raise Dead and True Resurrection are Conjuration [Healing] spells.
Pointless interjection:
A more appropriate term would probably be "necrolurgy" or "mortilurgy".
I miss Chagen and his unique brand of intellectualism.
That's designation is bullshit and you know it. The devs just didn't want the goodytwo shoes clerics to get their precious alignments and feelings hurt by casting necromancy spells.
I felt the same way.
What the hell was anti-intellectual about that? I can't see it.
If anything, it was a bit snippy, which was justified because lol chagen.
^^ Isn't the distinction that negative energy is necromancy and positive energy is conjuration? Or are there necromancy spells that channel positive energy or non-necromancy spells that channel negative energy?
Before third edition, it was all necromancy. It didn't matter as much, though, since clerics got their spells from groups called "spheres", which are kind of like domains.
Of course, the positive and negative energy planes were alignment-neutral, since they were elemental planes. If you spent too much time on the positive energy plane, you would explode.
#letmetellyouaboutplanescape
That part is still true as of 3.5.
So, you could theoretically make people explode by pumping them with enough positive energy? I must find out how viable this is.
No, there's no way to expose someone to that much of it without actually going to the plane.
Though I did have a DM one time rule that a lich exploded after I tossed his phylactery into the positive energy plane, so there's that, I guess.