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The Blue Green distinction in languages.

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  • nohaynicklibrenohaynicklibre
    edited 2011-07-07 12:14:54
    Kichigai birthday!!
    This reminds me of how the eskimos don't have a word for the colour orange, but can distinguish more than 40 kinds of snow
  • ninjaclownninjaclown
    5000th thread. Wow.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    ^ Would have expected a shitpostravaganza for #5000
  • BlackHumorBlackHumor
    edited 2011-07-07 13:44:49
    @Chagen: Oh my god that's such a blatent example of typical mind fallacy I don't know where to start.

    How can you have two different words for the same color?

    @nohaynick: Well, we can distinguish more than 40 kinds of snow too. Dry snow, wet snow, clumpy snow, light snow, heavy snow; snowflakes, snow mounds, snow drifts, snow storms, snowcones; sleet, slush, blizzard, hail, permafrost...

    Unless you mean as an innate feature of the language, in which case that's just false.
  • snowbullsnowbull
    Cue-bey
    Wait, How is this the 5000th thread? the 'All Discussions" tab thing has only 4955 threads listed.
  • StormtroperStormtroper
    That doesn't count deleted threads, I think.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    edited 2011-07-07 13:51:43
    No rainbow star
    ^^^ Black: I was trying to figure out how to say that but then gave up. Thank you for saying it!
  • BlackHumorBlackHumor
    ^What I said to Chagen, or to nick?
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    ^ What you said to Chagen
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Black: That doesn't change the fact that Green and Blue are objectively different shades to those not Colorblind. Not having a separate word for them is....nonsensical.
  • FrodoGoofballCoTVFrodoGoofballCoTV

    That doesn't change the fact that Green and Blue are objectively different shades to those not Colorblind. Not having a separate word for them is....nonsensical.

    According to the article, the languages do destinguish between blue and green, it's just that they call the sky "sky grue" and trees "tree grue", rather than using green and blue instead of "grue".

    It does seem odd to me that languages otherwise so advanced would not have a monosyllable commonly used word for something like "green", but in English "azure" and "grue" are not commonly used.

  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    I notice that a lot of European languages make the distinction compared to other landmasses.

    Knowing Poe's Law, I bet that a White Supremacist has used that to "prove" that Europe (and by extension, white people) are better, because they have separate words for blue and green.

    .....

    Oh shit. I have gotta troll Stormfront with this.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    So why blue and green and not, say, red and orange?
  • BlackHumorBlackHumor
    edited 2011-07-07 15:27:05
    @Chagen: Here is a color calculator.

    Now, I want you to enter the hex value 003219, and then the hex value 001932, and name them both.

    Now enter FFE132 and FFC84B FFFA19 and FFE132, and name them both.

    Got your names? Now highlight the text below:

    That first is hex for 0/50/25 and 0/25/50 R/G/B respectively, the second is hex for 255/225/50 255/250/25 and 255/200/75 255/225/50 respectively. There is exactly the same objective difference between the two pairs of colors.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    003219: green

    001932: blue

    FFE132: yellow

    FFC84B: orange
  • BlackHumorBlackHumor
    edited 2011-07-07 15:15:49
    Orange? What's wrong with your monitor?

    Hmm, in retrospect, try FFFA19 instead.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    I dunno.

    It looks orange to me.
  • snowbullsnowbull
    Cue-bey
    It looks beige on one monitor and orange on another I have.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-07-07 15:15:39
    Has friends besides tanks now
    . . . No, it's pretty orange. At least on mine.
  • delta534delta534
    Tech support
    For the purpose of science

    003219: green

    001932: blue

    FFE132: dull yellow

    FFC84B: orange

    FFFA19: Bright Yellow

    This is on a laptop lcd monitor.
  • BlackHumorBlackHumor
    We've got some serious ninjas in here tonight.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Black: FFE132 and FFFA19 are just both yellow. 

    There's barely a difference between them.
  • BlackHumorBlackHumor
    There is exactly the difference between FFE132 and FFFA19 as there is between 003219 and 001932. That's the point.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    How...how is that possible?

    Blue and green look completely different. Those two shades of yellow are barely different at all.

    Unless people from different continents see colors differently....?
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    I'm just wonder why it's blue and green instead of blue and purple this is totally not because of bias from my slight colorblindness
  • FrodoGoofballCoTVFrodoGoofballCoTV

    Found my cool thing of the day.

  • AHRAHR
    We can tell the difference between dark blue and light blue, but we don't have different names for them. 
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Because they're both blue in the end.
  • AHRAHR
    Heh, only because someone told you it was that way.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Chagen, did you look at that typical mind fallacy thing? Because I think that's what might be going on here too.
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