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"Some things are obscure for a reason"

Wicked223Wicked223
edited 2011-07-02 14:25:10 in Media
We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
This is a really, really stupid sentiment.

Mostly, because things like advertising/marketing and mass appeal play a far, far greater role in dictating what gets to the mainstream than (perceived) quality, and personally being a fan of lots of entertainment that falls rather far outside of the public view.
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  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    There's always reasons for something being obscure. Not always a good reason, mind you, but a reason.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    edited 2011-07-02 14:28:47
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    Well, the implied reason whenever someone uses this is "because it sucks", which is what annoys me.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    No one cared much for the music of J.S. Bach before Felix Mendelssohn revived it.
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    But Wicked, everybody knows that if music is obscure, then it is terrible. 
  • BobBob
    And if it's popular, it's even worse terrible. All music is terrible. This is a fact.
  • inkblotinkblot
    000
    Just rip out your ears right now, because they bring nothing but pain and suffering.
  • DonZabuDonZabu

    Sideburns fit for a king.

  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    But seriously, fuck anyone who says this.

    FUCK THEM HARD IN THE ASS WITH BROOMSTICKS
  • RaddRadd
    But it is true for some things.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    No, it really isn't.
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-07-02 15:26:41
    So, Riskay's "Smell Yo Dick" is actually really good, and "The Room" really is a prime example of American film?

    >Implying either of those count as obscure

    Shut up, me.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    edited 2011-07-02 15:29:14
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    I'm not saying they're obscure because they suck, I'm saying their suckitude (yes this IS a word) isn't the reason they're obscure.

    and why is there a song named "Smell Yo Dick"
  • BobBob
    Except that sometimes it is.
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon
    so that chris-chan could be forced to sing it.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    whatever.
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    edited 2011-07-02 15:38:00
    Tableflipper
    and why is there a song named "Smell Yo Dick"

    Are you seriously asking this with knowledge of all the songs with names related to sexual things to begin with?
  • BobBob
    It's not about sex.
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    He asked about why a song named that exists though, not the actual song's content.
  • BobBob
    He's not the one who implied it was about sex.
  • inkblotinkblot
    edited 2011-07-02 16:23:39
    000
    With video games, at least, it's true. The game industry is littered with 7/10 games that sold next to nothing and aren't good enough to get vindicated by history like Psychonauts was. If a game is fantastic, it will find an audience.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Well, the implied reason whenever someone uses this is "because it sucks", which is what annoys me.


    Seconding!

    Whenever you hear this, you should point out that Moby Dick was a flop that nobody cared about until fifty years later. Actually, that story is so common among books and movies (It's a Wonderful Life is another example) that it basically blows the whole popular = good argument to shit.

    It does annoy me that the video games industry is practically set up so that Moby Dick/Wonderful Life-esque comebacks basically can't even happen though, so works have really only one chance to take off unless companies keep re-releasing them (and that assumes bizarre rights issues haven't cropped up--hello, The Divide: Enemies Within!)
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon
    But the Agony Booth told me that It's A Wonderful Life sucks!
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Admittedly I'm not a huge fan of the movie either, but the point is if you equate "popular" with "good" then how do you explain these changes in fortune?
  • DonZabuDonZabu

    @MoeDantes: That's true, but that line of thinking is used to defend some pretty awful stuff, too. Like here's something from a Cracked article about modern music:

    >And as for the critics, you have to keep in mind that there will always, always be critics who hate whatever the latest trend is. Rock music as a whole was blasted pretty harshly when it first got popular. 

    This is in the context of modern pop music, like Justin Bieber.

  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Any line of reasoning can be misused. The point is to show that equating popularity with quality is an idiotic thing to do.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    In either direction.

    Popular =/= good.

    Popular =/= bad.
  • BobBob
    Too bad you see the latter so much around here.
  • NoimportaNoimporta
    "Here" being?
  • BobBob
    You know what I mean.
  • NoimportaNoimporta
    edited 2011-07-02 21:54:31
    Not really. Both sentiments are pretty much equally popular, the reason the latter seems more prominent is because it's been attached to a particularly annoying subculture (or at least, the public image of said subculture), and because it's a generally "disruptive" opinion (even if it's just as dumb as the opposite one).
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