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Witchcraft and the like.

ChagenChagen
edited 2011-06-17 22:34:59 in General
[tɕagɛn]
Today, while buying a language course on Polish, the person in front of me--who, through hearing her talk with the cashier, was a teacher--was buying books on Witchcraft.

I cannot fathom for the life of me, why anyone would ever want to get into the occult or witchcraft, or anything similar. It's utterly retarded, stupid, completely insane, and a waste of time.

This is not my Christian side speaking. This is my rationalist side. Because witchcraft/the occult/whatever the fuck doesn't not exist. There are not spirits around. You cannot change yourself from a stupid idiot who believes this crap into a badass. You cannot influence other people in the slightest. Not to mention that most of these "spells" break the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Any effects you see are placebo effects your dumbass mind created because you can't take the two seconds to rationally think and realize that it's all snake-oil. And that you're an idiot.

If this "magick" existed, then why is there no scientific review of it? And I mean respected, peer-reviewed research. Not stuff you and your friends did to prove that "magick" exists. Sorry, it doesn't. We have the laws of physics, sure. But that's it.

I, of course, did not say this to this woman, because I didn't want to get into an argument and ruin the mood of the other shoppers. I instead focused on the frickin' huge Oxford dictionary nearby.
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  • MyrmidonMyrmidon
    edited 2011-06-17 22:37:40
    -thumped-
  • inkblotinkblot
    edited 2011-06-17 22:47:17
    000
    You cannot change yourself from a stupid idiot who believes this crap into a badass.

    A lot of the younger Neopagans believe just that. Google "Magick" and see for yourself.

    Not to mention that most of these "spells" break the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

    Depends on the form of witchcraft. Many witches use magic in a similar manner to prayer through sympathetic magic.

    In the past 30 years, witchcraft/Neopaganism/Wicca/etc. has become a total clusterfuck of Druidism, New Age thinking, the findings of Gerald Gardner, Christianity and stuff created from scratch. It's hard to explain it and it's easy to fall into the trap of judging only a small percentage of witches and believing all of them to be like that.
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    If this "magick" existed, then why is there no scientific review of it? And I mean respected, peer-reviewed research. Not stuff you and your friends did to prove that "magick" exists. Sorry, it doesn't. We have the laws of physics, sure. But that's it.

    Where is that look back at me meme thing and how can I modify it to speak of God?
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    @Chagen: A lot of people don't necessarily believe it but find it a fun bit of wishful thinking.

    Also, every religion relies on posits.  Or postulates, or unsubstantiatable faith, for other names.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    This should be an interesting thread :3

    Also, I believe in spirits in some form.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-06-17 22:45:40
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Couldn't a lot of those things you just said apply to Christianity?

    It all comes down to belief.

    Today, while buying a language course on Polish, the person in front of me--who, through hearing her talk with the cashier, was a teacher--was buying books on Christianity.

    I cannot fathom for the life of me, why anyone would ever want to get into religion, or anything similar. It's utterly retarded, stupid, completely insane, and a waste of time.

    This is not my Athiest side speaking. This is my rationalist side. Because God/Jesus/whatever doesn't not exist. There is no such thing as a God. You cannot change yourself from a stupid idiot who
    believes this crap into a better person. There is no higher power who created us. Not to mention that most of these "miracles" break the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Any miracles or messages from God you see are placebo effects your dumbass mind created because you can't take the two seconds to
    rationally think and realize that it's all snake-oil. And that you're an idiot.

    If this "God" existed, then why is there no scientific review of it? And I mean respected, peer-reviewed research. Not stuff you and your friends did to prove that "God" exists. Sorry, it doesn't. We have the laws of physics, sure. But that's it.

    I, of course, did not say this to this woman, because I didn't want to get into an argument and ruin the mood of the other shoppers. I instead focused on the frickin' huge Oxford dictionary nearby.
    lol I can do it too

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ...this will make a fun though dubiously honorable copypasta meme.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    It's official. New copypasta meme.
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    Also, magical girls exist, because otherwise we couldn't extend the lifespan of the universe using the power of despair.
  • inkblotinkblot
    000
    So, who wants to be the asshole who creates the template?
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    I'll take the case!
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-06-17 22:49:33
    ^^^ I'm not convinced that method would work on a large scale.  Statistically, the vast majority of magical girls are way too positive all the time for that to really work on them, so it seems more likely that Kyubey just lucked out in choosing the ones he did.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-06-17 22:49:52
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.

  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    edited 2011-06-17 22:58:16
    Tableflipper
    ^^ o rly?

    (NSFW due to ads -INUH)
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-06-17 22:57:38
    From now on, I am going to pretend that magical girls in the Madoka universe actually turn into Strike Witches when they get all depressed and whatnot.  The fact that they don't look anything like that in the show is just because SHAFT is SHAFT.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    On a completely random side note, I have a horrible American accent when pronouncing Polish.

    Also, holy jesus these words are tongue-twisters.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Today, while buying a [noun], the woman in front of me--who, hearing them talking with the cashier, was a [profession]--was buying [something stupid].

    I cannot fathom for the life of me, why anyone would want to get into [something stupid], or something similar. It's utterly retarded, stupid, completely insane, and a waste of time.

    This is not my [opposite of something stupid] side speaking. This is my rationalist side. Because [stupid thing]/[synonym of stupid thing]/whatever doesn't not exist. There is no such thing as a [stupid thing]. You can not change yourself from a stupid idiot who believes this crap into [a/an idealistic characterization]. There is no [stupid belief related to stupid thing]. Not to mention that most of these "[stupid things]" break the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Any [stupid things] or [other stupid things] you see are placebo effects your dumbass mind created because you can't take the two seconds to rationally think and realize it's all snake-oil. And that you're an idiot.

    And if this "[stupid thing]" existed, then why is there no scientific review of it? And I mean respected, peer-reviewed research. Not stuff you and your friends did to prove "[stupid thing]" exists. Sorry, it doesn't. We have laws of physics, sure. But that's it.

    I, of course, did not say this to this woman, because I didn't want to get into an argument an ruin the mood of the other shoppers. I instead focused on the frickin' huge [inconspicuous and irrelevant item] nearby.
  • DYREDYRE
    Polish?  What does Polish have to do with... anything?
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-06-17 23:18:57
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    doesn't not exist.

    Can't believe the grammar nazi in me missed that the first time.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Keep it. It's integral to the meme.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    DYRE: "Today, while buying a language course on Polish"

    Also, I APPROVE OF NEW MEME
  • DYREDYRE
    >implying I can read.
  • StormtroperStormtroper
    A lot of people don't necessarily believe it but find it a fun bit of wishful thinking.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    "A lot of people don't necessarily believe it but find it a fun bit of wishful thinking."

    That doesn't stop it from being a completely irrational waste of time and money.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    You haven't really said anything that couldn't be turned around and applied to Christianity yet.  Again, it's belief.  People don't need a lot of hard evidence to believe.  That's why it's called faith.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Dammit, I was working on one about Bielefeld, but it doesn't work :(
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    That doesn't stop it from being a completely irrational waste of time and money.

    I though we were talking about witchcraft, not Christianity?
  • StormtroperStormtroper
    The same could be said of all religions.

    Moreover, what we (or is it just me?) meant was that it's a hobby, something you're into because you like it, not because there's truth in it.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    I see what you did there Stormtropef.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    See, this is what happens when you turn materialism into a moral imperative: you start sounding like a smug bastard for no good reason.
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