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Rebuild of Evaneglion 3 isn't out yet

snowbullsnowbull
edited 2011-05-16 22:11:09 in Media
Cue-bey
I haven't even thought about this in months and it still isn't out. Just release it so I can complain about it already!
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  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Whats it about?
  • snowbullsnowbull
    Cue-bey
    Making an even shittier version of Evangelion with a budget that's through the roof.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    edited 2011-05-16 22:18:38

    I didn't enjoy the second Rebuild movie.

    I like to think I won't see the third one after that, but I will.

  • snowbullsnowbull
    Cue-bey
    I'm seeing the third one specifically because of how awful the second one was. Hopefully it'll be even worse.
  • vandrovandro
    He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.
    How was the second one bad, exactly? 
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Define awful. Like the Starwars Prequel kind of Horrible or every Tremor movie after the first horrible?
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I liked the second one.  :<
  • CommandoDudeCommandoDude
    CRIMINAL SCUM!
    Dude. Rebuild is the shit.


  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-05-16 22:28:24
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    It's horrible in the same was that Doctor Horrible was horrible.

    Which is to say, it is teh awesomesauce.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    ...oh. I didn't get that Snowbull was referencing that.
  • snowbullsnowbull
    Cue-bey
    I'd say worse than the prequels. Star wars was before my time, so I don't really have any feelings for the prequels other than that they aren't worth watching in any way. Rebuild 2 is just awful.

    I only watched the commentary to doctor horrible.
  • CommandoDudeCommandoDude
    CRIMINAL SCUM!
    Now I need to make another thread.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    So, in other words, if you are a devoted fan of NGE and grew up with it, then you will absolutely hate it because it has a shitty joke character and expands the past story, has better CGI effects/animation than it's predecessor,  that is completely irrelevant?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-05-16 22:44:50
    You can change. You can.
    ...really? Rebuild 2 was way better than the original series. At least, rei wasn't a damn doll and Asuka wasn't such a bitch. 

    ^Apart from the Asuka/Shinji fans, I haven't seen much dislike against it.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-05-16 22:44:47
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Worse than... the prequels...?


  • CommandoDudeCommandoDude
    CRIMINAL SCUM!
    Vorpy speaks much truthiness.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    edited 2011-05-16 22:47:10
    Definitely not worse than the Star Wars prequels. But the plot was confusing (not the good, Evangelion type of confusing, either), the characters and action were dumbed down a lot, and overall, it seems kind of pointless.
  • snowbullsnowbull
    edited 2011-05-16 22:49:14
    Cue-bey
    NGE sucked by and large, no doubt, but Rebuild manages to do it harder. Does soundtrack dissonance badly, mixes the stupid cartooniness with the stupid grimdarkness in a single film...The only part I enjoyed was the first few minutes, up until Kaji spoke.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    But the plot was confusing

    ...really? My friend understood it and he has never watched EVA. He didn't even watch the first Rebuild!

    the characters and action were dumbed down a lot

    It wasn't dumbed. I'll admit the fight scenes were a bit too over the top, but they managed to convey the sense of urgency, danger and victory better than the original series did.

    it seems kind of pointless.

    End of Eva was kind of pointless if you ask me. Same goes to Death and Rebirth. doesn't stop them from being enjoyable.





  • vandrovandro
    He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.
    I am an Asuka fan, and I liked You can (not) advance. And sorry, your criticisms are actually subjective stuff and plain wrong in some cases, first of all, Rebuild films are not to be judged by mood whiplash.as it were actually bad, its not a movie, it's a serial, it showcases different moods because it has to cover a lot of ground. 

    Don Zabu, explain Dumbed down action for me, please.
  • SchitzoSchitzo
    They're somethin' else.
    I'll take an Evangelion where Shinji grows a pair any day.
  • CommandoDudeCommandoDude
    edited 2011-05-16 23:15:16
    CRIMINAL SCUM!
    Seriously. What Darths&Droids did for Jar Jar Binks. Rebuild did for Shinji.
  • wannabeotakingwannabeotaking
    Harbinger of thread and forum death
    I actually have been enjoying the Rebuild movies. I dunno, I just think it doesn't have the same air of pretentiousness as the original Eva
  • DonZabuDonZabu

    >Don Zabu, explain Dumbed down action for me, please.

    Compare Asuka's first fight from the series and Asuka's first fight from the movie.

    In the series, since both Shinji and Asuka are forced to pilot the Eva together, we get some preliminary character development in the way that the two have to stop bickering and cooperate. We also get to see how the team operates under vulnerability when the Eva is plunged into the water and is unable to move, and more of Misato's mastermind tactical ability.

    In the movie, it's pretty much "boom, Asuka kicks ass G-Gundam style, moving on".

    I realize that there's bound to be some fundamental changes when going from show to movie due to the medium's different structures, but so far, I'd still rather watch the series than the movies.

  • vandrovandro
    edited 2011-05-16 23:27:10
    He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.
    It's not exactly because of the medium but the pacing of the story, they had to cram a lot of stuff in the movie, and the assault at high sea was gone because of that. And also becase in Rebuild there is no High sea to speak of...
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    edited 2011-05-16 23:35:09

    ^ Compare it to the first Rebuild movie. I liked the first one a lot better for exactly the reasons you allude to; everything important was there, everything that was cut had its absence justified in a believable way, and it kept everything at an understandable level. 

    I also found that movie's climax much more enjoyable than the second movie's climax because, not only was the action more intense than in the show, the climax didn't overstay its welcome and drag on too long to the point of exhaustion.

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I didn't feel that the climax of the second movie was drawn out, but that was just me. And Zeruel's fight did indeed last about almost the whole episode in which it was featured.

    In the series, since both Shinji and Asuka are forced to pilot the Eva together, we get some preliminary character development in the way that the two have to stop bickering and cooperate. We also get to see how the team operates under vulnerability when the Eva is plunged into the water and is unable to move, and more of Misato's mastermind tactical ability.

    While true, the whole point of the scene is to establish Asuka quickly. You can't bother with a half an hour intro in a movie. That's ridiculous.

    I do agree that the movie could have used a much better and more involved fight scene for her, but eh, it's not like it did bother me.

    ^ Compare it to the first Rebuild movie. I liked the first one a lot better for exactly the reasons you allude to; everything important was there, everything that was cut had its absence justified in a believable way, and it kept everything at an understandable level. 


    I don't see how the second one has unimportant material, not to say that Rebuild 2 is the point where we go off rails, so it doesn't make sense to apply the ame standards of what was cut and what wasn't than the first movie.
  • vandrovandro
    He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.
    It's a different story with the same start, not a reproduction of the anime.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    ...so the Rebuilds are the entire series mushed into one movie? Like Lagann-hen or whatever for TTGL?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Vorpy: sort of, yeah. They start like that, but then they go off rails.
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